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william, what did you learn? >> i learned that our good friend badly cooper has a great weekend coming out this weekend, "limitless" and we got a lot more than we bargained for with jon meacham. >> i learned that mika was at one time on the road to becoming a great actor. >> of course her father killed the dream but give us the inv e invocati invocation. >> this is how i envision walking talking to you. i saw you the other night up on stage. i like your legs. besides that, you got some talent. >> oh, my god! >> you got it down. >> you actually don't have any idea. >> i learned that bradley's done a very good job with sir michael tyson through the -- and i think he enjoyed that more than de niro. >> what did you learn, mika? >> libya has declared a cease-fire. on t"the daily rundown."
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radiation found miles from the nuclear plant as japanese official try everything to contain the fallout but the japanese government acknowledging today it is overwhelmed and asks the u.s. for its help. the u.n. votes to allow military action on libya authorizing all necessary measures to stop gadhafi's forces. strikes can start as early as today. but we have breaking news just ahead on a move by libya to forestall any and all attack. plus, running out of patience. congress once again avoids a shutdown but not for long. how long can congress go without a long-term budget deal? hi, everybody. it is friday, march 18th. 2011. i'm thomas roberts. chuck and savannah are on assignment. also this morning, the so-called plume from japan's meltdown blows toward the u.s. and we are live inside the exclusion zone around chernobyl, still the site of the worst nuclear power
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plant. what it's like a quarter century later. just moments ago libya's foreign minister said libya has decided to halt all military operations to "protect civilians" in line with the u.n. no-fly decision. they say the cease-fire will "take the country back to safety and ensure security for all libyans." we'll have much more on the u.n. decision, as well as libya's cease-fire declaration coming up this half-hour. in japan, it is one week since the earthquake, then the tsunami which devastated the country's northeast. the death toll stands at 6,539. more than 10,000 people are still missing. new video shows the extensive damage at the fukushima nuclear plant, multiple reactors now in danger of overheighting. one of the spent fuel pools may be even cracked. officials are considering burying the fuel rods in sand to prevent a wider catastrophe but the bigger dangerest may be at reactor three which contains
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plutonium. high intensity hoses were used for a second straight. power lines have been run to the reactors in hopes water pumps could be restored as early as today. . back at home president obama insists the radiation poses no threat to the u.s. america's top nuclear expert says he expects this crisis to go on and last for weeks. japan's nuclear agency has now raised the severity level of the crisis at the fukushima plant from a 4 to a 5 putting it on par with what we had in this country at three-mile island. robert bazell is nbc's chief science correspondent, live in tokyo. robert, explain what's going on, the very latest at the plant and also the increased rate from a 4 to a 5. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. the increased rate has to do with the fact that it has effects beyond the blast. we know there's high levels of radiation at the plant and we're hearing these reports of hotspots in different places. now the levels of radiation that
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are away from the plant site still are not significant health risks, no matter where they are in the levels that they've been detected yet. the big danger remains that there's going to be some kind of explosion or massive release of radiation from those fuel rods that were in pools that are now drained, at least partially drained of the water that's supposed to keep them cool or from the fuel rods that are inside the three reactors that were running at the time of the earthquake and tsunami. it is a battle trying to get water in to them before something bad lapse to them. yesterday they used -- earlier today they used those trucks that we see at airports, used to put out airplane fires, sprayed water on reactor number three. the fact that there was some steam released indicates that at least some of the water was getting on top of the fuel rods. how well that's going to work for how long is not something that anybody's prepared to forecast and that's why they're
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thinking about this next move which would be to dump sand and dirt, especially filled with particles of boron and lead, things that can absorb neutronsneutrons and cut down on radiation and basically just bury the fuel rods. it is scheduled to take place at reactor two on saturday and reactor one on sunday. that's how it's moving along in this battle but it still is -- as we indicated, far from over and it remains an ominous situation. >> there will be progress if they can get that power hooked back up. joining me now, david albright, president of an institution specializing in global power or activity. you've been on all week on "the daily rundown" explaining that this is really an international crisis. the u.s. has concluded there must be a crack or breach in the spent fuel pool at the reactor number four which holds about 130 tons of uranium fuel.
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is that a game changer in terms of just how bad this really is? >> it's not a game changer but it's a symptom though of how it's been so difficult to get information. i mean the japanese, unfortunately, have fought this conclusion and still it is an assessment. we don't know because no one's on the edge of the spent fuel pond to look in. but it does make sense because there hasn't been steam coming from unite four. you look at unit three and you see steam which most people believe is the water boiling in unit three. there was an explosion at unit four. either the earthquake or the explosion, which i guess most people believe was in the spent fuel pond, that could have caused a crack in the pool and therefore any water put in is just going to drain out. therefore, if you know what's going on -- that's the important thing. we need to know what's going on. if you know what's going on, there's plan b. and dumping sand with boron and lead is a very effective temporary measure, hopefully it doesn't become a permanent measure but it is a good
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temporary measure to do two things. make sure that there's no criticality. you can have a recriticality in that fuel if you're not careful. and you can at the same time with the lead, you can stop -- and dirt or sand, you can stop the gamma radiation which makes it very hard for workers to get anywhere near it. so it is a plus to do that. >> let's talk about some of the plans here. the japanese are focusing on reactor number three. they're trying to cool it down with fire hoses. yet one u.s. official quoted in the "new york times" said, "this is more prayer than plan. "so you agree with that criticism or do you think that there really is more that can be done especially if there is an international focus and japan actually opens up and lets other people come in to facilitate and help with the problem that they have there? >> well, a lot of the things that the workers at the plant have been doing look a little bit desperate.
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and particularly we saw that with these helicopters. i'm sure they fight forest fires there. why didn't we see these big planes that we see when you fight forest fires that can dump a lot more water than those helicopters. and so there are questions about the effectiveness of the japanese approaches to this and i think the united states is there to help. it's going to have people, resources. the united states is finally measuring the radiation levels in the japanese countryside and it's using excellent equipment. so i think the more needs to be done. the other problem there is, there have been very high radiation readings outside unit three. it is not clear what those are from. is it from a problem in the reactor core? is it from the spent fuel? but it's really unnerving that we don't know if the reactor core is stable and not subject to some kind of explosion. we do know that the spent fuel ponds have water in them because there's steam but is it enough water and are these tank -- is this hose or these hoses really
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filling the spent fuel ponds. >> david, so a power can be restored to these water pumps, ifby look at this optimistically and if pumps aren't damaged could we see a relatively quick resolution to all of this? >> it is very important to get the electricity. that's a real plus. and we should be hopeful. as you point out, you get the electricity, you got to hope the pumps work. they may not because of earthquake damage or damage from explosions. so -- but we won't know until it is hooked up. but these workers have to try to hook this up in an environment of pretty significant radiation so it takes extra time and it's already been delayed. but it is part of what's necessary to get this crisis under control. >> david, thanks for coming on. we appreciate your insight all week long here on "the daily rundown." experts have predicted very low levels of radiation could be detected along the west coast as early as today, but president obama insists there's no reason to be concerned. >> we do not expect harmful
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levels of radiation to reach the west coast, hawaii, alaska, or u.s. territories in the pacific. that is the judgment of our nuclear regulatory commission and many other experts. >> nbc's george lewis is live at lax airport. explain the move and how closely people along the west coast are watching the coverage and anticipating what's going to happen next. >> reporter: yeah, thomas, people are watching the coverage very closely. there was some panic earlier in the week when people rushed to buy iodine tablets hoping to ward off possible cancers in the event of a radiation emergency. but that seems to have calmed down a great deal now with these reassurances from officials that only trace amounts of radiation are going to reach our shores. now when passengers arrive here at lax and other airports across the country from japan, they're going to be greeted by customs and border protection people with these, radiation detectors. they're going to be wanded down for traces of radiation coming
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from japan. now so far, the officials say they found only trace amounts of radiation on people's clothing and shoes and a little bit in luggage. one radiation detector at dallas-ft. worth airport was triggered by a shipment of radioactive medical supplies. so they don't think there's much concern of people tracking radiation back from japan into this country, although flights out of japan are full. people are trying to get away from any possible threat there. but again, officials in this country emphasize that the plume of radiation from that plant will be largely dispersed as it crosses the ocean. it will be diluted by rain water. it mixes with the salt in the ocean and it becomes pretty much inert by the time it gets here. so any amounts of radiation they're picking up on their detectors are only slightly above normal background levels and do not constitute any sort of threat to the public health in this country. that's one thing they've been
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emphasizing over and over -- do not panic, do not rush out and buy iodine, don't go out and buy $800 radiation detectors like this one. better donate that money to earthquake relief in japan. thomas? >> george lewis at lax, thank you. up next -- breaking moments ago -- libya's foreign minister declares a cease-fire to protect its citizens. this just hours after gadhafi vowed to show no mercy to the rebels. so who is really in charge there? we'll take you live to tripoli next. plus we go live to the scene of the worst nuclear accident in history -- chernobyl. a quarter of a century later, the area is still considered radioactive. could it be a glimpse into the future of japan? but first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. he's leaving tonight for latin america. chuck and savannah are on assignment traveling with the president. you are watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. and a healthy level of sodium. it's amazing what soup can do.
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responding to the libyan people and to the league of arab states, security council has authorized the use of force, including enforcement of a no-fly zone, to protect civilians and civilian areas targeted by colonel gadhafi, his intelligence and security forces and his mercenaries. >> breaking at this hour -- libya is declaring a cease-fire. libya's foreign minister just announced the government will halt all military operations. the government is also denying that its airspace is closed. last night the u.n. security council authorized all necessary measures, including a no-fly zone, air strikes and naval attacks to protect civilians from gadhafi's regime. jim maceda joins us now live from tripoli. update us on all the breaking
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news. >> reporter: there's more breaking news because it is good breaking news. "the new york times" has just reported that those four journalists, two reporters, including the two-time pulitzer prize winner, according to the "times" were captured by pro gadhafi forces but will be released today. that was the hope, that was the speculation that they got caught up in the retreat of rebel forces around 90 miles south of ben ghaz benghazi. they hadn't been heard from since early tuesday morning. until today he had said there was no news but that's certainly good news. you mentioned the other breaking news, and that is that the libyan government in the guise of the foreign minister did come to us today here and told the foreign journalists that the
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government was accepting the u.n. resolution number 1973, was immediately putting in place a cease-fire, that it agreed and welcomed a couple of notions in that resolution, namely the protection of civilians and the territorial integrity of libya. again welcomed those notions. he went on to say that the country wanted to get back to a safe and secure environment. he said that he was saddened -- the government was satinddened the no-fly zone in addition to the resolution. he said it should not have included commercial airlines, that would simply increase the suffering of the libyan people and the civilians should be exempted from the resolution. but it certainly does, thomas, sound like a stepping back, retreat, on a military level, at least, of this government, though knowing the regime,
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knowing the leader of this regime, there's no doubt that we are going to see over the next days or weeks now this government turning what looks like a setback and retreat into a step forward. remember, he has a large arsenal, 60 miles south of benghazi. he's shown no indication daf pulling back, of retreating. he could stay there or he could push on into or near benghazi. and without using artillery or air strikes or even mortarmorta move in on a very tactical basis at night, police like a police operation, and go toward the leaders of the rebels and the opposition. so again, it does look like a stepba backwards but it doesn't mean there will be a major retreat militarily. politically certainly there's no indication at all that gadhafi or his regime is going anywhere. back to you, thomas. >> jim maceda in tripoli for us.
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thanks so much. the international community is ready to go to war with libya but it is still unclear who exactly is in charge there. and what the announcement of a cease-fire will mean for military preparations. steve clemmons is director of the american strategy program at the new america foundation, he just returned from doha, qatar, where he met with leaders of the libyan council. for all this going back and forth and hearing what jim maceda is reporting, what does this cease-fire really signify and also talking about the fact that libyan officials are saying they're going to step bhack and say this is something they're going to abide with. how sincere and how trustworthy can they be? >> i think trustworthiness and whatnot went out the window a long time ago. i think it is clear moammar gadhafi is setting up the situation in which he can milk the notion of time that he can basically set up a divide between himself and the opposition, remain strong and incrementally move in.
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i agree with the other gentleman who suggested that there are different options that gadhafi has. so this was a clever move in the eyes particularly in the eyes of the arab side. arab league supported the imposition of a no-fly zone. of course if he says i'm standing down on combat operations, it makes it harder for them to strike when he's really just buying time. >> steve, you met with libyan opposition leaders as we just said, you got back from doha. what are they asking for and who in the international community is best equipped to provide what they need? >> well, the opposition in libya, many of whom the chief opposition leaders are former gadhafi government officials. there's also a youth movement in different pieces and you hear different things from different people. but the libyan opposition council per se has a roster of asks. a number of those asks are, immediately begin jamming gadhafi's communication. help provide -- at least help facilitate the provision of arms and supplies to the opposition. they literally have been running out of ammo in some of these
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cities that were closer to tripoli. as they retreated back, it was a function that they weren't supplied and equipped. and even after the french recognition of libya, france and other nations that wanted to help were not providing them with supplies that were useful. they'd like to see their government recognized because that creates other sets of options for them. and the no-fly zone is increasingly part of the package, not because they want to see western fighters and whatnot coming in and doing the job they want, but because they felt that it would be impossible for them to get the intelligence, the targeting information, and the arms and supplies without it. and so the no-fly zone has become a moniker for holding a lot of things together but they really needed immediate support on arms and supplies. >> steve, talk about that. you've been very wary of western intervention in libya which would as you say rob protesters of their own narrative. you are also skeptical about the stampede to a no-fly zone.
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now that the u.n. has passed this resolution and we're on the verge of something bigger happening in libya, do you still have those reservations? >> yes, i do. i think it is very important to make sure that at every stage -- you just asked question of it is still unclear who's in charge. it is very important to have the arab league built in, arab forces, arab troops, arab fighter capacity if in fact we make these strikes and that's unclear whether that would happen and that's a key piece. i think we need to think in efficacious ways, what will really help the opposition succeed in ways that minimize the western foot print. we tend to be very blind here about the narrative that runs rampant among average arabs and muslims in these countries who, part of their daily life is to basically remember how their lives were made unfortunate at the hands of the colonial overlords they once had in the west. and i think that we need to be careful of imposing a very large footprint from there. and i also think, look what's happened in the cameras?
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the cameras have immediately shifted away from protesters in the streets in all of these places to what will the west do, will we put boots on the ground, what will bombing look like, what kind of naval capacity will we wedge near libya. so the frame has changed from one that we saw in tunisia and egypt. maybe that was inevitable. but to some degree we have to remember that this is their war and we need to if we want to help, help them enable it, keep it their war and their revolution not to own their civil war which i think we're on the pathway to doing right now. that would be a real problem because we end up delegit mating the very people we want to help. we're keeping a close eye on developing situations in libya as well as japan today. many americans are now looking for ways to help those affected by the earthquake and tsunami in japan. one way that you can help is text red cross to 90999 to donate $10, or visit
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quick look at the markets before the opening bell. stocks were poised to rise friday after the world's seven largest industrialized companies backed a plan to bring the japanese yen down from historic highs. ahead of the opening bell the dow jones industrial average futures were um 78 points, that's .7% to 11,789. new concerns about the aging nuclear plants in this country. we'll tell you which plant has the highest risk of an earthquake causing catastrophic damage and what's being done to keep us safe here at home. but first, today's trivia question from the almanac of
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appropriate to travel with so much chaos to be dealt with around the globe currently. the nuclear crisis in japan has many around the world remembering the very worst case in chernobyl, ukraine. on april 26, in 1986, reactor number four at the chernobyl nuclear power plant exploded. 40 hours later the nearby town was evacuated and has since stood abandoned. a haunting memory of that disaster, nbc news's michelle kosinski has made her way to that site and joins us now. michelle, good morning. >> reporter: hi, thomas. well right here, that is the hulking sarcophagus of the nuclear reactor. this sound is what you hear pretty much everywhere around here. the normal dose of radiation that you get just from the soil is between 10 and 20 micro-ronkins per hour. right here it is about ten times the normal doze but you drive around and it will spike up to
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1,000. then 100 feet away it will be normal again. that's the way radioactivity remains spread 25 years later. and it is truly a nightmarish place to see up close. if the signs don't turn you around, a long drive through a desolate forest, lonely villages, two checkpoints and one waiver will land you right at the broken heart of the surreal no-man's land remains of chernobyl. what was the gleaming new company town, full of good jobs, new schools, modern apartments. today if something can be full of emptiness -- this is it. radioactive mosques flourishes while the buildings and all their soviet trappings very slowly weather. a rarely seen testament to the
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accident that ultimately sent hundreds of thousands of people away. through the woods, that amusement park that never had a chance to open. and we saw, for good reason, never will. >> how much is it? >> 7,000. >> 7,000. should we even be standing here? >> for a few minutes. i do it every day almost. now, 700. but here, will be 7,000. see the difference of one meter. >> reporter: but somehow the silence here feels just as distressing. this was a school. there's a mess of gas masks tossed aside by looters who stole the metal parts. pictures of lennin line the wals
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and floor. a stuffed bear still holds its flowers. a pickled pepper waits on a shelf. about 4,000 people work at this site on very strictly controlled shifts and about 1,500 people have illegally resettled in this area, not advisable, of course. but the ukrainian government says that the radioactivity has diminished enough that they've now opened it up for tourism. so, yes, you can come see this place if you want to. it will cost but $150 for a tour. but of course you'll have to explain to your family why your vacation is not to the beach. it's to chernobyl. thomas? >> i don't think that's on the list of things to do, michelle kosinski, thanks so much. appreciate it. what about our own aging nuclear infrastructure? the u.s. energy grid includes 104 nuclear plants across 31 different states. but most of them are at least 30 years old. nbc news' tom costello joins us now from washington. good morning.
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where are the highest risk plants as we look across the grid of our country? >> well, let's make a couple of points. first of all, in 60 years of nuclear power in this country, there have been zero injuries and zero deaths as a result of nuclear power plants in this country. according to nuclear regulatory commission data analyzed by, the plant with the highest risk of an earthquake causing catastrophic core damage isn't in california. instead, it is north of new york city, the indian point reactor licensed back in 1976. it sits on a previously unknown faultline and faces a 1 in 10,000 chance of catastrophic earthquake damage to the core. there are others in the top ten. in massachusetts, pennsylvania, tennessee, florida, virginia, south carolina and california. but we should emphasize here, thomas, that this is strictly data that was collected by the nrc, national regulatory commission -- pardon me, nuclear regulatory commission, and then crushed by to come up
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with a statistic. in no way does this suggest there is going to be an earthquake or that what is happening tomorrow -- and in fact when you talk to the experts on all sides of this issue, all of them say that the u.s. nuclear power grid is far safer than any other nuclear system in the world. >> tom, when we talk about the union being concerned -- union of scientists being concerned, yesterday saying that earthquakes really aren't the only risk factor and that there have been a couple of close calls over the last several years. let's talk about what are some of these other close calls that need to be brought to national attention. >> this is the union of concerned scientists. they are a watchdog group. a lot of ph.ds in there. they aren't anti-nuclear power but they are a watchdog group. they listed 14 close calls last year that they say raised the risk of damage to a reactor core, things like floods, equipment failures, leaky roofs, cracked walls and fires, also security issues. they applaud the nuclear regulatory commission for being
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proactive in many cases and they also say that the nuclear regulatory commission should be more proactive in some areas. but even this watchdog group, the union of concerned scientists, says that there is a very low risk of any sort of a nuclear disaster in this country. >> tom costello in d.c., thank you. this sunday on "meet the press" -- neglect secretary dr. steven chu will discussion what the nuclear crisis in japan means for the future of nuclear energy in this country. also on the show, chairman of the senate energy committee, senator jeff bingaman and former homeland security secretary tom ridge about whether our nuclear power infrastructure is actually really prepared to deal with a natural disaster. that's all coming up again on sunday on "meet the press." president obama and the first lady leave tonight for their first latin american trip south of mexico. this visit will focus on the economy and strengthening ties to latin america.
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but it comes at an awkward time for the president with the nuclear crisis in japan, potential for war in libya and budget crisis here at home. nbc's mike viqueira joins us now live from the white house. this is a week-long trip to brazil, el salvador and chile. security advisors are also traveling with him to brief him on the international developments. why are some people giving the president flack for choosing now to continue with this trip? >> well, the white house -- any white house, frankly, is fond of saying that no matter where they are they have secure communications. the white house is wherever the president is. it isn't necessarily figuratively speaking this building just behind us. he will be going to brazil. they leave late tonight. he has his family in tow. the capital of brazil, on to rio de janeiro where there will be meetings with the new president there. he'll also do a little sight seeing, visiting one of rio's slums. he'll go to the famous and iconic christ the redeemer statue for a little sight seeing there. on to chile. two emerging economies. one of the subtexts is the economic competition that the united states has in south
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america with china which has a burgeoning trade relationship and business relationship with many of these countries as well. brazil, no one needs to be reminded about their emerging status on the world economic stage. chile, ditto. the president will be in santiago for meetings there, press conferences in both locations with the respective leaders. then on to el salvador. there, arrival ceremonies, a lot of pomp and circumstances. dinners around these visits. the president will visit some mayan ruins in el salvador before finally returning to washington next wednesday. it is not out of the question between now an late tonight when the president departs that we could hear from him on situation in libya in the wake of that startling u.n. security council vote last night, thomas. >> mike viqueira at the white house for us, thank you. so least of all to say it has been a rocky week on wall street and the events in japan as well as those in the middle east threaten to undermine what was already a plet pretty shaky economy. 37% of americans are pessimistic. they believe the country's financial health will get worse
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over the coming year. that's nearly twice as high as it was just three months ago. steve liesman is cnbc's chief economic reporter. steve, what's the take-away out of all this? >> the take-away is how astonishing these results were. it floored me. we had this really interesting blip up, positive blip, in december, and then to see these numbers rocket down like this, i think the take-away is as follows. one of the things we saw was that people's expectations for their wages have pretty much crashed. we have the lowest reading ever for expectation for wages for the next 12 months. down 1.1%. then you combine that with people's expectations for inflation which are the second-highest we've ever seen in the history of tis survey. there's the wage expectations. you combine that, people really think their standard of living is going down. one other piece of bad news in this survey, people think their home values are also not going to go up. we had a brief blip up again in december. combine higher prices with lower wages and a more pessimistic outlook with housing. you have the real ingredients,
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the witch's brew, for a real pessimistic attitude in the nation. >> chemistry of all that, not a good make-up there. trivia time for everybody. the hal rogers parkway located in southeastern kentucky and named after the republican congressman was formerly named after which famous american? the answer for you -- daniel boone. people are shaking their heads around here. congressman hal rogers, chairman of the house appropriations committee says he doubts the house -- that we can pass another short-term spending bill but insists that a government shutdown won't be happening. so how much longer can this back and forth, back and forth on the budget go on? lawmakers on capitol hill, glove up for another round of the budget fight. but what is the long-term plan? but first, the white house soup of the day. friday is fish day. they're eating gumbo in the white house mess today. you are watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. she felt lost...
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as low as 4.75% at, where customers save an average of $293 a month. call lending tree at... today. welcome back, everybody. president obama is expected to sign another short-term spending measure to fund the government. the sixth in almost six months. now the countdown is on for april the 8th. that's the new date to. put on your calendar. government funding will once again run out if the two sides can't come together. let's bring in the editor and publisher of the rothenberg political report and nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. good morning to you both. stu -- the house and senate have kept the government running through april 8th. here we go again. have they run out of hope here? when are they really going to come together for this larger agreement to fund the government instead of this piecemeal plan?
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>> i think the next three weeks is a really key point. if you think back to a month ago, there was a sense that we're at the edge of the cliff, crisis, government shutdown, they passed the cr for two weeks to continue funding. and now again we've approached the end of the cliff but they passed another cr. i think for many americs there will be a sense we'll just do this indefinitely. congress will just pass funding bills for two or three weeks and we'll go to the end of the fiscal year. that's not going to happen. when i talk to people on capitol hill, they tell me that democrats are not prepared to do more of these crs and republicans aren't either in the house. >> kelly, when we talk about the senate vote that took place yesterday, what does it say to you the tea party line senators, marco rubio, rom paul and jim demint are voting with left wingers like bernie sanders? is this your enemy's enemy is my friend? >> you have liberals by bernie sanders and jay rockefeller and patty murray who voted in the same way that a new senator like
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marco rubio, rand paul. those on the conservative side don't believe this kind of cr, this continuing resolution, is the right way to go. they want to see much more severe cuts. they want to see a long term plan and on the left, there's great concern about what is being cut and a real argument to be had about the way to approach this as far as having the domestic discretionary spending, that piece of the pie which so directly affects a lot of the social programs and things and not the bigger conversation about what can be taken out of the budget. so when we do that vote count and look at the tally, we always sort of find those interesting alliances where people can come to the same vote even though they start off in very different political places. so it's part of what i think stu is saying, too, the certain frustration that's begun to build about can these short-term fixes really be an answer. people have seen they've been able do to do it and that's
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because they can swallow the idea of kicking the ball forward just a bit. but one of the underlying problems is when you fund thing this way it is a hop, skip and a jump. it does not release money that's been planned over the long term and it makes it very difficult for a number of funding because of the mechanics of how budgeting works. >> let's talk about that deep frustration. 54 republicans voted against the bill, including 20 freshmen. how does he move forward? does he stick with the tea party demands for these deep cuts or work with the senate? >> i talked to a republican staffer just yesterday about this who told me house republican leaders are figuring that somewhere between a $10 billion cut and $60 billion cut is where they are going to be on a final funding bill. they have to find the right dower amount. the speaker says he opposes a government shutdown.
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at the same time there is an element of his party that believes a fight is necessary and a shutdown would not be the worse thing. the speaker on one hand is trying to lead his party in the direction of compromise. at the same time, he doesn't want to get -- doesn't want to go in a different direction. he is in an awkward position. he is trying to lead but doesn't want to get too out in front. >> good to have you both on this morning. is pepsi going flat? it's no longer the second most popular soft drink in the country, apparently. we'll tell you what gave it the big heave-ho. look at these two. sarah palin or charlie sheen? the 2012 poll made for the shallow end. running there? dancing there? how about eating soup to get there? campbell's soups fill you with good nutrition, farm-grown ingredients, and can help you keep a healthy weight.
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let's go onto the shallow end. don't tell chuck. public policy polling asked whether americans would rather vote charlie sheen or sarah palin to lead this country. according to the poll, would prefer sheen to palin in the white house 41% to 36%. what is sheen's response? >> winning. waited and winning. winner, winner, chicken dinner. >> chuck is going to be mad. big news in the beverage industry. pepsi cola, always a bridesmaid, never a bride, is now no longer the second most popular soft drink in the country. diet coke officially bubbled up into the number two spot knocking pepsi down to number three. in other beverage news, not too many times you get to say that
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line. a british brew is launching a new beer to commemorate the upcoming wedding. the brew is called kiss me kate. castle rock brewery plans to sell 70,000 bottles of the special beer leading up to the big day. that's going to do it for me and "daily rundown." next, chris jansing and "jansing and company." she is back from tokyo. i'll see you back here at 11:00 p.m. at 1:00 p.m., don't miss "andrea mitchell reports." your weekend forecast. more rain than we would like on the west coast. thunderstorms in the middle of the country. a dose of reality from new york to boston as temperatures cool off. it should be dry. by the time we get to sunday, we'll watch the thunderstorms here in the middle of the nation. hot waffles...
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good morning, i'm chris jansing in new york. yesterday i was in tokyo, japan. this is the first story i've ever reported on where my team and i were told to evacuate the area today we will take you inside japan, the rush to leave and can frantic efforts to cool the reactors there work? the next war. the u.n. joins the arab league pushing for